In regard to our correspondence of the 19th Dec (J 4761-171 I g III. Ang) to which I gave you a preliminary communication on the 19th Feb, I finally take the following position:
The Surgeon General-SS and Police, in a personal discussion told me that the budget which he administers concerns primarily the purely military sector of the Waffen SS. As for the small part used for the enlarging of scientific research possibilities, it pertains exclusively to such affairs that can be carried out only with the material (prisoners), which is accessible to the Waffen SS and can therefore not be undertaken by any other experimental agency.
I cannot object therefore on the part of the Reich Experimental Counsel against the budget of the Surgeon General-SS and Police.
In acknowledgment of your letter of 19 Feb 1943, I am able to reply the following to it today:
The appropriation for the 53 key positions for my office which you made the basis of your memorandum as planned for peace times.
The special institutes of the SS which are to be partly staffed through this appropriation are to serve the purpose to establish and make accessible for the entire realm of scientific research, the particular possibilities of research only possessed by the SS.
In view of the further developments of this war, I have already shelved this plan for the time being as the result of negotiations with the Reich Finance Minister in the past year, so that my authorized personnel amounts to 25 key positions only. Of these positions, only 5 are filled at present.
Under these circumstances our objections with regard to an unreasonable overlapping of work of scientific institutes for the war's duration are void.
I will gladly be at your disposal at any time, however, to discuss the particular research aims in connection with the SS, which I would like to start after the war according to the direction of the Reich leader SS.
Furthermore, it is important that these researches--once their realization appears possible, will be tied in with the related research aims of the state.
Hoping to have served you with my preliminary summary, I remain with best greetings and
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| Rf. 234/43 Sr. | 19 Feb 1943 | 1 |
The Reich minister of finance told me that you requested 53 leading positions (BES. GR C3-C8) for your office, partly for a new research institute.
After the Reichsmarshall of the Great-German Reich had, as President of the Reich Research Counsel, taken over all German research he issued directives, among other things, that in the execution of militarily important scientific tasks, the available institutions, including equipment and personnel, should be utilized to the utmost for reasons of necessary economy of effort.
The founding of new institutes is therefore only possible in as far as there are no institutes available for the furtherance of important war research tasks.
As I don't know your personal purpose and have insufficient information from the explanation the Reich finance minister gave me about the planned institute, I would be thankful if you would further explain your plans and purposes.
I will gladly be at the disposal of one of your co-workers for an interview or would be ready to call upon you personally.
I wish you would inform me as to when and where these discussions may take place.
You notified me on the 19th Dec. (J4761-174 I g III, Ang) concerning the research work by the Surgeon General SS and Police, and asked me what stand I take. Since the work of the state chief of research started originally in the armament department, I was unable to clear up any questions pertaining to the medical department, which came up in the last weeks. But I shall do so in the near future, and I believe I can already say that the new institutes requested by the surgeon general of SS and police will be unnecessary since other institutes can cover these planned missions.
I shall have a conference with the surgeon general SS and police pertaining to details of this planned work and, at that time, I shall let you know what my final stand will be. I would like to suggest, therefore, to defer the decisions at this time.
In this connection I state that the health officer, State Secretary Conti approached the president of the research counsel requesting funds to establish an institute for virus research in Frankfurt on Main.
Investigations to date have shown that the institute is not necessary since the planned work can, without doubt, be done * * *
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| Rf. 232/43 Sr. | 19 Feb 1943 | 1 |
The surgeon general SS and police has requested 53 key positions for the new organization of his office ( Bes. Gr. C3-38 ). The organization plan shows that the surgeon general SS and police plans not only special experts for "Research" in pharmaceutical chemistry, in dental and clinical services and a special section of scientific service, but also that plans are desired for a string of institutes which likewise deal mainly with research work:
1. Central Institute for Medical Scientific Exploitation
2. Institute for the History of Medicine
3. Pharmaceutical Chemistry Research Institute
4. Pharmacy for Military Requirements
5. Special Institute Sachenhausen
6. Pathological Institute
7. Hygienic Research Institute
In the informal discussions it was referred to the fact that the plans for the research arrangements for the Waffen-SS can only be granted if the research missions which the Surgeon General SS embarked upon are not already undertaken by other independent institutes, resp. by the universities, or belong to their sphere.
The Hygienic Institute, according to the proposed plan, includes the following seven divisions:
I lack accurate data for other institutes. I have set aside the decision on this budget.
Regarding the decree of the Fuehrer of the 9th June 42, (RGBL. I, 389), and the emphasized necessity of coordinated scientific research, I ask for your immediate opinion on the matter.
| Source: Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression Volume III Office of the United States Chief Counsel for Prosecution of Axis Criminality Washington, DC : United States Government Printing Office, 1946 |